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ahranis 04-21-2019 04:15 PM

ID Please?
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Found in my late fathers basement.
I was about to try to restore it. I then found your site and changed my mind.
I suspect that someone has done it allready before me. :(
No background history that I know.

length: 2,79 meters
number of bolt holes: 8

I cant be sure about the stamps...

Helics (Les ....- Paris) decal

Serie 550
No .(3?)203
Cu 260
SFA (0?)

In the photos you can spot various unidendified signs at the hub.
It was a big thrill trying to match the readings to your sign list!

I am not interested in selling it. I would be happy knowing the type of plane
and approximately the year of manufacture.

Thank you anyways!

Geetings from Greece.

pmdec 04-21-2019 08:14 PM

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I think the decal is the one attached (Les Fils de Régy Frères - Paris - / HELICES RF).

The markings seem to be for a Salmson 2A2 aircraft fitted with a Canton-Unné Z9 engine, but the serial number 550 seems to be absent of known databases and the 350 was for AR1 or AR2 with 170 HP engine... So, it is a French interesting prop!

Could you:
- post pics of the two "flat" sides of the hub,
- confirm that the marking "M1" is on the same side that SERIE and N°?
- confirm that the marking on the opposite side is "c1"?
- post a very close up pic of the serial number,
- give the blade width (at the larger place which is around two third of the blade),
- try to know if the tip protection is made of pigskin or parchment.


EDIT: Replaced link by file for the decal.

ahranis 04-22-2019 03:12 AM

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I am really thankful for yor quick and detailed responce!

- These are the new pics.

- The "M1" marking is indeed on the same side as Serie and No.

- About the opposite side, I reattach a pic of an unidendified mark (NF?) beside of a possible C1,
both spotted, next to a rectangular one (bottom right).

- The blade width is approximately 23 cm.

- I am not quite sure about the tip protection. The material is quite thin, hard
and transparent with follicles visible in places.

Again I am really thankful for your time and effort,


ahranis 04-22-2019 03:15 AM

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more pics...

ahranis 04-22-2019 03:17 AM

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last one

ahranis 04-22-2019 03:19 AM

P.S. The decal on your reply was not visible to me for some reason...

pmdec 04-22-2019 05:27 AM


Thank you for the new pics. I have change my first post and I think the decal is now visible.

The marking Nf is for Noyer de France (Juglans regia), the wood used.
The possible "c1" have to be a lowercase C (at the opposite side, the "M1" is (and has to be) a capital M): it is the way to show that the prop has been repaired or modified.

I will look at your pics and try to find more details but I have to search in my papers...


Dbahnson 04-22-2019 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ahranis (Post 16349)
Found in my late fathers basement.
I was about to try to restore it. I then found your site and changed my mind.
I suspect that someone has done it allready before me. :(

It doesn't look "restored" to me, even though as PM says it may have been "modified" at some point, so it's a very nice collectible item as is.

I still have a similar prop used on the Salmson A2A. Now I'm wondering if mine was actually manufactured by Regy, although it's not apparent from markings on it. It does have a Regy "look" to it though, similar to yours.


Note the similarity (and differences) with a Regy prop for a Caudron:


ahranis 04-22-2019 07:27 AM

Yes, I've been in that page often since I spotted your site!

Now that my eye is "trained" a little bit more, I can spot more similarities and the differences...

Very beautiful and well preserved!

ahranis 04-22-2019 07:30 AM

Thank you pmdec...

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