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    I'm not at all familiar with WW1 German propellers. I understand that they are quite rare due to most being destroyed after WW1 under the terms of the Armistice.

    Any help much appreciated.

    Regards,
    Bob.
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          Greetings Viscount,

          It is German and particularly rare. Kurt Fliegel made propellers from 1916 to 1918 in Potsdam, south of Berlin, although the only German official reference that I have found refers only to 1918. The data I have collected suggests he made about 4000 props, a comparatively small number.

          Your data translates as;

          DRP Patented with the German Kingdom
          Fliegel Propeller maker
          PS 160 horsepower
          Mercedes engine maker
          Dc 2800 prop diameter in mm
          St 177 prop pitch in cm

          Nr 3481 serial number

          These dimensions are for a C type aircraft. A similar prop was fitted to a Rumpler C 1 on a training airfield in 1916.

          If you would like more information there are eighteen pages devoted to Fliegel in Part One of my series on German makers, just published.

          With kind regards,

          Bob
          Bob Gardner
          Author; WW1 British Propellers, WWI German Propellers
          http://www.aeroclocks.com

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            Many thanks, Bob. Very much appreciated.

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              Fliegel, SHORTEND WOODEN AIRCRAFT PROPELLER

              This Propeller is mine....

              WW1, made by FLIEGEL


              probably used for an 100 PS / 1200 r.p.m, water cooled,

              Benz (Mercedes) Bz II 6-Cylinder-Engine

              Possible Aircrafts:

              Albatros W.5, Hansa Brandenburg B I


              (Informations from Flugzeugwerkstatt, Deutsches Museum, Germany)
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                GrĂ¼ssen Thomas,

                Thank you for your excellent photographs. This propeller hub is in excellent condition and a delight to see.

                Kurt Fliegel's workshop was still standing in Potsdam when I visited a few years ago.

                Your propeller was made for the Flying Troops of the Army Fliegertruppen des deutschen Kaiserreiches and the data translates as;

                Fliegel Kurt Fliegel of 29-30 Tornowstrasse.Potsdam
                PS 100 100 horse power
                Mercedes Mercedes, the engine maker
                D2700 Diameter in mm
                ST150 The pitch in cm
                No1939 The serial number

                6 bolt holes; typical of an early propeller with a low powered engine. Later engines required eight bolt holes

                Gepruft FLZ Approved as airworthy by the Flugzeugmeisterei

                The presence of the letters FLZ indicates 1917-1918. By contrast the engine and propeller design date from 1914 or early 1915. In case you suspect an anachronism on my part, engines and aircraft made then were still flying and in need of replacement propellers in 1918.

                Mercedes and Benz had not united to form one company at this time. Mercedes made most of their engines for the army; and Benz, for the navy.

                The two aircraft you mention are naval. This army propeller would have been made for B-type and C-type aircraft. One was fitted to the Rumpler C 1. Others of this class are B I, B II, and C I of all the major makers such as AEG, Albatros, Aviatik und so weite!

                Kurt Fliegel only made propellers in 1918. At the end of the war Hugo Heine bought the contents of his factory.

                mit freundliche GrĂ¼ssen,

                Bob
                Last edited by Bob Gardner; 03-15-2016, 07:12 AM.
                Bob Gardner
                Author; WW1 British Propellers, WWI German Propellers
                http://www.aeroclocks.com

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                  Hi from italy! Is it the same of mine? Please help me!
                  KF Postdam. Ww1?

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