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Old 08-04-2016, 07:24 PM   #1
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Hi all,

I hope to find on which plane(s) this Niendorf could have been fitted. The markings read:
- on one hub side and on one blade (1st pic):
13462
178P.S. MERC. 274D.
195 St
EDULZUG

Nothing on the other blade nor on the other side of the hub.
- on blade feet (2nd pic):
274
GEPRUFT
FLZ

and:
195
STAND
1310


The decal read: NIENDORF PROPELLERWERKE LUCKENWALDEN

This prop seems to be the same that the one of this thread: http://woodenpropeller.com/forumvB/s...light=niendorf with 13462 vs 13546 prop number. But perhaps since 2013 Bob could have found more infos?

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Old 08-20-2016, 07:00 AM   #2
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Good Morning Pierre-Michel and everyone.

This propeller was almost certainly made for the Pfalz D XII, an airframe much influenced by the Fokker D VII.

I have four serial numbers from a batch with the same diameter and pitch made by the Niendorf Brothers.

13373
13462 This prop
13472 Pfalz D XII in the RAAF museum
13546

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Old 08-21-2016, 07:40 AM   #3
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Merci Bob !

And... More questions!
So, the making date has to be 1918? Or later?
Did you know if the prop in RAAF museum is the original one of the plane?

Did you have the use of other pics? I will sent you directly then.

BTW I hope to exchange this prop for an early Hamilton (one with the banana decal). Any advice about the exchange balance?

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Old 08-21-2016, 03:28 PM   #4
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Bonjour mon Ami, it is good to hear from you.

I agree that it is likely that this prop dates from Autumn 1918 to November 1918.

I have seen several instances where Museums have put the wrong prop on an aircraft. I believe the Pfalz in the RAAF was donated complete by the British Government to Australia c1920 so the prop may well have always been with this airframe.

I know of several museums which have fitted props to the wrong aircraft but they should not be criticised for this. All museum staff are by definition generalists rather than specialists and at least they are preserving both the propeller and the aircraft. I know of museums in France and Britain who have discarded aviation items because they had no room for them. Some were stored for almost 100 years in wooden cases which when opened revealed rare propellers which had decayed to almost nothing but had supported the worms of the wood wasp for decades!

I regret that I have insufficient knowledge to compare the values of your prop with an early Hamilton. The thought does occur that yours is a WW1 prop. Did Hamilton make props in WW1? Perhaps Dave can advise. Ultimately, all that matters is that the props survive, and are not allowed to rot away in an unopened case.

With kind regards,

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