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  • French propeller Rhone 80?

    Hello,
    Could someone identify this wooden propeller?
    Blades are shortened.
    Diameter hub is 190mm
    Axle hole is 60mm
    8 bolt holes diameter is about 9mm
    Hub thickness is 100mm
    Markings on the hub are
    AR
    Rh 80
    Serie 22201
    Serialnumber 30350??? Hard to read
    Thanks for all the info!!!!
    Could it be from a Nieuport 10 AR????
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  • #2
    It's a Chauviere design and the only application I could find for that model was for a Morane XXIV.

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    • #3
      Hello,
      Thx for the info.
      I've had a look at morane airplanes and there seems to be a type AR also.
      That's the morane ms35 AR.
      It also used the Rhône 80 hp engine.
      Maybe it's for that type or the type you've mentioned.
      Thanks and greetings,
      Geert

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      • #4
        Hi,

        From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morane-Saulnier_AR : ".../... Large-scale production commenced after the Armistice ", in accordance with the prop number which is, IMHO, 80350 and not 30350. I would be very surprised if serial 2220-1 was made before 1918 for a "AR": first serials 2220-1 were for Morane LA fitted with ailerons.
        Chauvière with 80xxx prop numbers are largely post war.

        Regards,
        PM

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        • #5
          Hello Pmdec,
          So if it is 80350 what year could it be then?
          And is it for the ms35 ar?
          When I had a look at it, I also think it's 80350.
          So a late serial number.
          Probably used then for a Belgian morane AR?
          Thanks for the info!!!

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          • #6
            I am not very sure of datation using only prop number, but a guess would be 1921-1922 for 80350.
            I suspect also that the prop was lacquered from the black color "inside" the markings, which is another detail for a "late" prop.

            Regards,
            PM

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            • #7
              Ok that's the indication that it could be from a Belgian used morane ms35 AR from the twenties ,used at the pilots school in Wevelgem Flanders. It was found nearby.
              First I was confused because the Belgian aviation also used the Nieuport 10 AR, but this airplane is earlier, so AR is probably the morane ms35 AR used in the twenties ,thirties as a trainer.
              Thanks for all your help!!!

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