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    I found this blade and its mate under a house on Avenue B on Barksdale AFB in Shreveport Lousiana in the summer of 1968. The hub had been sawn off and I never found it, but was led to believe it was a prop from a PT-19 trainer from the mid-30s because they were very common at that particular field at one time. I never looked into it until just now but this doesn't look anything like a prop from that model plane from any year I can find.
    The blades are about 32 inches long and 8 and a half inches wide at the strongest point. There's a lot of pitch, and the blade has an asymmetrical airfoil through most of its length. I suspect that the hub had a considerable amount of blade left to it when they cut these tips off. There are no identifying marks, but the metalwork is distinctive, reminiscent of that I've seen on cars of the late teens and early 20s, and the wood is very old mahogany.

    The blades were painted black when I found them and after very careful examination I find no trace of another color, so it was previously stripped and spray-painted black These blades are laminated from 7 pieces..

    My knowledge of prop-making and props in general is limited to those for Radio-Controlled helicopter blades and pitch/length sizes for the more popular airplane models, so though these has been in my possession now for more than 40 years I know nothing about them. I also don't hold any illusion that they might have been actually ever used in the air, though I suppose it's possible. I just want to see if anyone here has seen this kind of scalloped metalwork on old props before, and find out what company might have made it for what kind of craft.
    See the uploaded pictures for a better look than I an describe. Any input would be appreciated. I plan on carving a hub and seeing about a little retrofit. I didn't carry these around the world for 40 years for nothing!
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    The scalloped sheathing isn't uncommon and doesn't point to a specific manufacturer or propeller model. Similarly, the characteristics of those pieces could be present on a VERY large subset of possibilities, and I don't think you will ever get enough information to positively identify them.
    Dave

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    • #3
      Can you tell me what general era it may point to? Does the scalloping give a hint as to its age? Not looking for a specific year, just want a general 'probably made in the 20s or 30s' kind of thing.

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      • #4
        No, it's not age specific. The use of mahogany MAY indicate WW1 era or shortly afterward, only because other hardwoods were more common beginning in the 20's and 30's.
        Dave

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        • #5
          Did propmakers from all countries use that scalloping ?

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          • #6
            My experience is primarily in props made in the USA and Canada. I have seen those scallops on props from the late 1920's through the immediate post-WW II years. I currently own one by Hartzell and used to own one by Stone Propellers with that pattern. They may have been used in Europe and Asia but I very little knowledge of those.

            Lamar

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            • #7
              That's encouraging. I have never seen a prop with that kind of scalloping on it. Where can I find some pictures? I'll do a web search for Hartzell and Stone Propellers.

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              • #8
                Wow, look at this:
                http://www.woodenpropeller.com/DH4.html

                My prop blades look very much like the tips of that DH4 prop you have, Dave. Mine have 11 scallops and these only have ten, and the twist is off, but it looks close.

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